In my Hardcore Funnel System review we’re going to take a look at this strategy and determine if this is going to be an ideal approach for growing your online business.
This system is from Bryan Winters and the official website can be found at http://www.hardcorefunnels.com/. It’s free to join the Hardcore Funnel program but along the process, you will be presented with a couple of paid options (I’ll try to discuss them later in this review).
I’m going to tell you straight away that I do not like the system that’s being peddled by Bryan Winters through this Hardcore Funnel System.
What Is Hardcore Funnel System?
In its most basic form, the Hardcore Funnel System is all about lead generation.
If you’re not familiar with lead generation, this is basically where you collect visitor information like the name and email using a simple web form.
A good example is right here in my blog. I have a free Internet marketing course and people can access it by simply signing up to my form.
However, with the Hardcore Funnel System the process of generating leads is not that straightforward.
According to Bryan, his top gun programmer created a software system that runs behind the scenes of your ready made, fully hosted Hardcore Funnel website.
I have to admit that I’m still not clear as to how everything works. It’s a good thing that Bryan is open to explaining how the system works in his website.
First, you’re going to get your own Hardcore Funnel that’s already personalized with your affiliate links and it’s fully hosted on their side. Next step is that you get ready-made advertisements and traffic sources so you could get as many subscribers as you can. Then using their high IQ software, as Bryan likes to call it, you can turn those leads into your own cash cow.
How the lead gen works
The part where he explained a scenario of how the lead generation could multiply exponentially is where everything made some sense.
In his example, you have Bob as a referral and he refers 100 people using his own HFS. Bob’s leads will also automatically join your list which will unlock their own HFS.
But wait! There’s more! According to Bryan, the whole lead gen system runs 5 levels deep. So if Bob referrals get 100 leads each, then 500 people will also automatically join your list.
2 Versions of Hardcore Funnel System
The 2 versions are the standard and the millionaire. The standard version is only for lead generation while the millionaire will allow you to get both leads and earn commissions.
How you spam, err I mean earn
The Hardcore Funnel System is essentially free but when you move along the process, you’ll be requested to buy his IM products which is 5 Figure Day and CashBlurbs.
This is what he calls the featured affiliate offers and if you buy any of the two paid products, the system will then put your affiliate links into the funnels that will be shoved down the throats of the referrals.
What I Like
I wish I had Bryan’s voice. Hehe. I also like how open he is when explaining his system.
What I Don’t Like
I don’t know if you noticed but this strategy has MLM written all over it! If you’ve read some of my reviews for programs that promote this business, then you know that I do not really like it.
There are a lot of issues I see here and it’s all the same issues I have with MLM programs. First, I’m not sure if the subscribers who are going to be automatically added to a list knows that they are being added to a different list. Do they still need to confirm this?
This is not building a real business because all you’re doing is promote the products of Bryan Winters. You’re just helping him build his list and you’re just essentially spamming people in the list with typical IM products.
You Don’t Have a Clue!
If you’ve been fumbling around and wondering why you haven’t got the results you’ve wanted with Internet marketing, then it’s simply because you’re not familiar with my #1 recommendation.
What do you think?
Hope this review shed some light into what this system is all about. Do you have any experience with it? I would appreciate it if you can share some of your thoughts.
Hi,
I just joined and upgraded although my details still show I am a standard member! When I had a query their help desk has a captcha that does not work so no help there and no other way to ask questions.
Also their Ad Swipes are not really good and I would be surprised if anyone joined with the text they give.
Thanks for sharing your experience Rosemary. I’m guessing that their ad swipes are also full of hype and it’s the type that you see in your spam emails. hehe.
I’m not sure whether it works or not, but I know that I started buying into these products over a week ago and have no clue how to paste an ad. I’ve asked a lot, I’ve tried to watch all the videos, but each time it says “Welcome to the Member’s side” I have to buy something else to make it work! Now, i’ve got so many memberships to sites that I have no idea what goes where (member ID’s) what I copy and where i’m supposed to paste it, or how I get paid (which I probably never will because I don’t know how to post a freaking ad! I’m really super frustrated with it all. First CashCode was a scam and now this!!!
Thanks for sharing Lori. What I would suggest is that you check out the free training over at WA so you’ll learn the things you need to improve.
Hardcore Funnel does work but members need to work pretty hard on promoting to get anywhere which for inexperienced folk is damned hard. Also buying solo ads is recommended which adds a cost. Of course you can use it for free to build a list only. I’ve built the beginnings of a list with it and a couple have joined the affiliate programs as well, so not too bad really.
The adswipes are no better or worse than all the stuff you see in your inbox. Bryan knows more about promoting than I’m ever likely to learn so when it’s in his interests that I succeed why would he write garbage swipes for members to us?
Wealthy Affiliate is good for sure. The only thing that makes me hesitate to join is finding program reviewers like you who seek to promote it via giving other programs bad reviews so you can say “forget XYZ program, go for WA”. Not just you but plenty of others. Pardon the pun but bad mouthing other stuff to promote WA leaves a nasty taste in the mouth about it. And since all the WA members who do this say they are doing great with it with building their own sites etc etc why do they need to promote it anyway?
Thanks for sharing your experience Richard. IMO WA’s program and community is going to be more suited for a complete beginner. Why do I and other people promote WA? I think you have a good idea of how many MMO products are released every single day that doesn’t really care about people’s success. These so-called products always tap into people’s greed glands and get rick quick mentalities in order to get that sale. Joining WA doesn’t guarantee your success because it’s all up to you. It’s really just the same thing in life. Just because you went into a good university doesn’t mean that it’s all going to be smooth sailing all the way.
How are you doing with Hardcore Funnel System? Do you see yourself using it or their strategies in the next 5 or 10 years?
You’re welcome to my humble opinions Raymond. Like I said I’m doing OK with Hardcore Funnel making enough to cover my costs so on basis of Rome was not built in day I’ll keep plugging away for awhile in the hope of having a decent sized list and getting monthly residual income.
Also like I said for IM newcomers like me, the really hard part is getting referrals. It’s chicken and egg because if you already have a large responsive list it’s relatively easy. Will I still be there in 5 to 10 years, who knows? Depends on how I get on next few months.
I guess the main reason you promote WA is to get paid introductory commissions? Nothing wrong with that. I know WA is good. I was a member for a short while but took a “sabbatical” due to being unable for a few months to work online at all. I’m now teetering on rejoining and picking up where I left off. The only thing making me hesitate is seeing bad reviews for other programs by literally plenty of WA members all saying “don’t touch this program but join WA”. I just don’t like seeing anything get the bad mouth treatment – which may or may not be true – as a recruitment ploy.
There are for sure plenty of downright rotten and scammy programs being pitched all the time but Hardcore Funnel is not one of them
I’m glad you’re doing great with HFS. If you’re getting some conversions with that system, then all you have to do is funnel traffic to it and refine for added conversions. The concept behind HFS is list building and email marketing which is a tried and tested marketing system. I just don’t like how they’re doing it because it’s too complicated for me. hehe. You could actually simplify it by having your own funnel system. Prepare your email series by providing value so you could develop trust and then once in a while do some promotions.
Believe it or not getting commissions for promoting WA is not my main and first motivation. My main reason why I promote WA is because I want people to know that building an online business is a definite possibility and WA is a great place to start. Although I don’t really focus too much in promoting them because I think majority of the people are just looking for get rich quick methods online. I prefer to focus my efforts in building small niche sites outside of the IM niche.
Again, I want to thank you for sharing your experience with HFS. My opinion with them are just my opinion and it’s up to people to check it out if they really like to.
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I agree with Richard absolutely. I know WA is a good product but hate that the members seem to train to go out and kill the other affiliate products. I am actually quite sick of it! Sorry!
Regards
Peter
Hi Raymond,I am very happy with the promotion of the wealthy Affiliate. I am just about paying to become a paid member. However, It has actually been my concern how almost every member of WA post negative reviews about almost all Programs online. So I agree with Richard.
So the first impression you get is that, all u have been train to do that. Because of that, I have earmarked some affiliate programs I have planned to do same to them when I join. LOL.
Anyway WA a learning hub, but you know no other program is 100% perfect. People will surely get a con to say about practically anything.
Thanks
Hi Raymond,I am very happy with the promotion of the wealthy Affiliate. I am just about paying to become a paid member. However, It has actually been my concern how almost every member of WA post negative reviews about almost all Programs online. So I agree with Richard.
So the first impression you get is that, all u have been train to do that. Because of that, I have earmarked some affiliate programs I have planned to do same to them when I join. LOL.
Anyway WA a learning hub, but you know no other program is 100% perfect. People will surely get a con to say about practically anything.